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  • Resolving Math-Anxiety Through Trauma-Informed Teaching, with Dr Bea Bleile
    Hosted by Rosemary Davies-Janes. Produced by J’aime Rothbard This conversation explores how academic learning is impacted by a student's emotional state, prior experiences, and the safety of the learning environment. Bea, who has been teaching in various roles since 1993, saw that traditional teaching methods fail to account for the "whole" students who enter the classrooms. This failure often results in elevated student anxiety and hindered learning: As a teacher committed to evolving current educational institutions and systems, she addresses: - The impact of negative emotions on learning - Math Anxiety, where it comes from, when and how it shows up - Teaching as a shared experience between teacher and student, not just an information transfer - Systems that discourage vulnerability in teachers, and prioritize conformity over critical thinking - How acknowledging mathematics’ inherent difficulty can help students overcome anxiety and fear Bea sees Compassionate Inquiry’s potential to transform the current education system through; creating safety and rapport in classrooms, encouraging students to embrace their struggles, allowing mistakes to help students embody knowledge, educating teachers on students’ nervous system responses and underlying beliefs, and embracing somatic approaches to addressing student blocks. About Dr Bea Bleile, MSc, PhD German-born Bea enjoyed mathematics in high school, but her love for the subject blossomed during her undergraduate studies at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH) in Zurich. After earning her diploma, she became an associate lecturer at ETH.   Wanting to stay in touch with mathematics while caring for her young child, Bea undertook and completed her MSc in homological algebra. Next, she enrolled in a PhD program in low dimensional algebraic topology, and after completing her doctorate, worked as a post-doctoral fellow.  Today, Bea teaches at the University of New England (UNE) in Armidale, NSW. She teaches all undergraduate mathematics units as well as specialized honours and postgraduate units. A staunch believer in the liberating power of education, after reading Dr Gabor Maté’s book, The Myth of Normal, Bea undertook the Compassionate Inquiry (CI) professional training. Her goal was to expand her ability to teach difficult subjects in accessible ways to support students’ learning experiences. The CI training revealed what may be happening in students’ bodies and psyches when they experience ‘maths anxiety’ or encounter learning blocks. It also equipped Bea with the insights she needs to support students in moving past their blocks.  Teaching and planting trees are Bea’s preferred ways to contribute to society. Promotional Message: If you've been listening to our podcast and are curious about the Compassionate Inquiry approach developed by Doctor Gabor Maté and Sat Dharam Kaur, consider joining the Professional Training Program. It's open to all healing professionals, including naturopaths, physicians, body workers, coaches, and therapists. In addition to learning how to use compassion to support your clients in their most vulnerable moments with greater empathy and authenticity, you'll also deepen your own internal process. If you're interested, tap this link to learn more. Resources: Websites: Dr Bleile's Professional Profile Related Links: Paulo Freire   Bell Hooks Articles: Reflections on Compassionate Inquiry® and Teaching Mathematics Everyone Can Learn Mathematics to High Levels: The Evidence from Neuroscience that Should Change our Teaching  Books: Teaching to Transgress: Education as the Practice of Freedom  Pedagogy of the Oppressed The Myth of Normal Bell Hooks Books Quotes: “Attending school was sheer joy. I loved being a student. I loved learning. School was the place of ecstasy, pleasure and danger. To be changed by ideas was pure pleasure. But to learn ideas that ran counter to values and beliefs learned at home was to place oneself at risk to enter the danger zone. Home was the place where I was forced to conform to someone else's image of who and what I should be. School was the place where I could forget that self and through ideas, reinvent myself.” - Bell Hooks “If you've managed to learn to read and write, you can do maths. It's like learning another language. You have to work at it. Things won't make sense immediately. And it's hard because it's a very precise language. You try to do a problem and you don't even know where to start. That's normal.” - Bea Bleile “The knowledge we now have about the working of the brain is so significant, it should bring about a shift in the ways we teach, give messages to students, parent our children, run schools and colleges.” - Jo Boaler “Another thing that is important in doing mathematics, I guess in doing everything, but especially in mathematics, is to allow ourselves to make mistakes and to allow ourselves to ask a question as it comes up.” - Bea Bleile Social Media: FB: https://www.facebook.com/bea.bleile  
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  • Elevating Consciousness & Healing Through Art & Music with Ester Martinez
    Hosted by Rosemary Davies-Janes.  Produced by J’aime Rothbard. This rich conversation explores many topics, from Ester’s personal and professional journeys, to spiritual mysticism, to the parallels between experiencing ‘excellence’ in art, music and transformational trauma healing. Ester began sharing her NDEs and naming,”‘the Divine embrace” as her childhood comfort, the foundation of her healing approach and an enduring influence in her therapeutic practices.  She also reflects on: - Why healing is always possible - Art and music as mediums for elevating consciousness and facilitating emotional healing - How addressing shared human experiences can lead to community healing - The role precise therapeutic interventions play in healing individual and collective systems - Why mastery in any healing modality requires years of devotion and practice Ester concludes this conversation by sharing a vision in which schools incorporate teachings on presence and emotional health, and by doing so, facilitate greater consciousness in future generations. About Ester Martinez, PhD   A Master Transformational & Executive Coach, Psychotherapist, Individual & Collective Trauma Therapist and Consciousness Teacher, Ester holds a BA in International Relations, a MA in Humanities and a Ph.D in Philosophy & Ethics. She has also studied and practiced Zen Meditation since 2003.  Ester has applied her multidisciplinary training, (Gestalt group work, Family Constellations, Somatic body/mind work, Craniosacral Therapy, and Francois Mèzier's Body Therapy) in organizational settings and leadership development for 18 years. She is a core transformational faculty member for Mobius Leadership's senior most leadership offerings and a core member of Thomas Hübl's team. Ester has been pivotal in developing innovative methods in both Constellations work and Mike Boxhall’s “Presence in Stillness,” and promoting them throughout Spain and South America. She pioneered the integration of mystical principles with Constellations work as a means for deep personal and collective transformation, and is on the leading edge of introducing personal mastery, consciousness work and transformational healing into the business world.  Her deep interest and immersion in the study, research and therapeutic application of mystical principles enables her to help people access, illuminate and integrate previously hidden and unrealized parts of themselves and their lives. Her deep connection to, and comprehension of, what lies beneath perceived patterns, roles, and identity, allows people to connect more fully to their life’s true purpose and potential and gain clarity on their blocks. When not traveling the world promoting and working on her many projects, Ester resides in Valencia, Spain, near her two grown sons. Promotional Message: If you've been listening to our podcast and are curious about the Compassionate Inquiry approach developed by Doctor Gabor Maté and Sat Dharam Kaur, consider joining the Professional Training Program. It's open to all healing professionals, including naturopaths, physicians, body workers, coaches, and therapists. In addition to learning how to use compassion to support your clients in their most vulnerable moments with greater empathy and authenticity, you'll also deepen your own internal process. If you're interested, tap this link to learn more. Resources: Website:  Ester’s Mobius Profile Related Links: Mobius Leadership Bert Hellinger (Family Constellations) Thomas Hübl (Collective Healing) Craniosacral Therapy Gestalt Group Work Zen Meditation David Garrett (VIolinist) Gustav Klimt (The Kiss) Books: Laws of Healing Healing Collective Trauma Video: The Myth of the Happy Childhood Quotes:  “If we give ourselves the opportunity of looking at the darkest places in us, the light that has been hidden just shows up again and is always there guiding us.” - Ester Martinez “Great musical artists, like a violin virtuoso, is one with his instrument and creates a field of coherence that transmits joy. Healers are artists in their own right and their instrument is their whole body. We refine our instrument through contemplation, prayer, deep inner work to be the clearest instrument for service, but at the end it is grace that allows deep intuition and deep knowing to emerge from the unknown. That's what people see as deep coherence and miracles.” - Ester Martinez “Precision is love in healing.” - Thomas Hübl “The family group ‘re-members’ the excluded... When a legitimate member of the group is shut out, someone in a later generation must compensate…by suffering a similar injustice. [They]…don’t choose their fate… They relive the fate of the excluded person, and recreate [their] experience, complete with the guilt, the innocence, and all the other feelings...” - Bert Hellinger Social Media: LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ester-martinez-phd-02b48490/  
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  • Shining Authenticity's Light into Corporate Leadership, with Lubna Forzley
    Hosted by Kevin Young. Produced by J’aime Rothbard. This passionate conversation begins with Lubna’s upbringing in war-torn Beirut. She recalls seeing bombs falling and people dying and wondering, “What is the point of this? How do we find purpose?” Her mom told her, "It's okay, everything’s replaceable except you, the people you love and the story (or purpose) you live by.”  After 15 years of corporate work Lubna launched her own business, Stories. Its name acknowledges the intertwining of our purpose and personal brands, and the alignment of our internal and external stories. She also links misaligned stories with depression and other issues. In this episode, Lubna highlights: - The role of purpose in personal fulfillment - How leaders’ trauma can affect their authenticity and decision-making - The workplace transformation from, “Doing Leaders into Being Leaders” - Why corporate leaders are “the nervous system of their organizations” - How leaders’ emotional states and level of personal development directly influence their organizations’ cultures and employee engagement The interview concludes with Lubna’s vision of Compassionate Inquiry’s universal capacity for healing, facilitating new growth in global organizations, leaders, families and individuals. About Lubna Forzley, Founder & CEO of Stories, Certified Compassionate Inquiry Practitioner, Independent Compassionate Inquiry Circle Leader, ICF-accredited PCC Coach Lubna has worked with royalty, C-suite leaders, and Fortune 500 giants including American Express, Google, Johnson & Johnson and the Nasdaq Entrepreneurial Center. Her executive career includes senior roles at Coca-Cola, UNDP, BNP Paribas, and advisory roles to multi-sector startups from e-commerce to human development. A sought-after speaker, Lubna has delivered hundreds of talks and shared stages with icon Steve Wozniak and others. The global roundtables she hosts have featured thought leaders Dr. Gabor Maté,  Sophie Grégoire Trudeau, Dr. Caroline Leaf, Sat Dharam Kaur, ND and many others.  As the CEO and founder of Stories, a digital storytelling and coaching platform, Lubna’s work supports the internal and external growth of organizational leaders.  The author of, Enhancing Business Community Relations (UNDP), Lubna’s new book, Crack It, will be released in 2026. Her work has been featured in Fast Company, Entrepreneur, and AP as well as Andrew Stafford’s book, Something to Believe In. A passionate advocate for Compassionate Inquiry®(CI), Lubna is launching Independent CI Circles while working closely with Compassionate Inquiry® Inc. to bring its therapeutic approach to the Arab World.  She serves as a board member for Grief Stories and an advisory board member for Mindtrust Leadership and Nasdaq EC. She champions women in leadership, and is the proud mother of three. Promotional Message: If you're not a therapist or healer, but you've heard our guests describe the personal transformations they experienced during their Compassionate Inquiry® journeys, and wonder what that would be like for you... Circles is a 10-week small group experience offered to anyone who wants to experience the power of Gabor Maté’s approach to trauma healing. Use this link to find out if this program is for you. NEW! Independent Compassionate Inquiry® Corporate Circles These 10-week online support groups are designed to heal workplace stress, toxic dynamics, and disengagement while helping leaders access resilience, emotional regulation, and deeper self-inquiry. Tentatively scheduled to begin September 30. Use this link to learn more and register your interest.  Resources: Websites: Professional Website CI Practitioner Profile Speaker Profile Related Links: 2024 Grow Virtual Conference Grief Stories  Mindtrust Leadership Nasdaq Entrepreneurial Center Videos: 2019 TEDx talk Speakers Bureau Profile Simon Sinek, Start with Why. Framework Leadership Podcast Let’s Have This Conversation Podcast Nasdaq Entrepreneurial Center Interview Books: Enhancing Business Community Relations (UNDP) Something to Believe In. Social Media: LI:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/lubnaforzley/ IG: @lubnaforzley    
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  • Intimacy, Healing and "Sand in the System" with Kosha Joubert.
    Hosted by Rosemary Davies-Janes.  Produced by J’aime Rothbard. This heart-felt conversation arcs from the pain of apartness to the healing power of connectedness. Kosha shares her personal journey, which led her from the cognitive and somatic dissonance of enforced separation (apartheid) to the synchronicity of inter-connection. She also explains how: - Human love and connection can change systems from the bottom-up - Witnessing eco-communities’ good intentions and dedication to restoring relationships with nature, social systems, cultures, and economies led her to, “fall in love with our world and humanity” - Underlying limitations manifesting as unresolved conflicts can block us from reaching our full potential. - The Pocket Project creates pockets of intimacy—with ourselves, others, and the world. - Global Social Witnessing moves from "cold data" (mental processing that fosters separation and polarization) to "warm data" (embodied, relational understanding). - The collaboration of healing movements supports widespread bridge building and waters the seeds of cocreation in the “super juicy" spaces between their different approaches. In conclusion, Kosha emphasizes the need to address the "sand in our systems;" those subtle, persistent particles of conflict and resistance that hinder collective flourishing. She encourages us to love “our sand” and allow it to settle so that our waters can clear themselves and light can stream in. About Kosha Joubert, CEO, the Pocket Project An expert international coach and facilitator, Kosha has worked in systems regeneration, organizational development and intercultural collaboration in 48+ countries. In her current role, she works closely with Pocket Project co-founder, Thomas Hübl, and a global team. Together they are growing a culture of trauma-informed care by focusing on the emergence of collective wisdom, trauma-informed leadership and post-traumatic growth. She co-hosted the “Power of Collective Wisdom Conference” with Thomas in Berlin in 2008, and continues to co-host the annual Collective Trauma Online Summit.  Kosha has also authored several books and received the Dadi Janki Award (2017) for engaging spirituality in life and work, and the One World Award (2020) for building the Global Ecovillage Network to a worldwide movement reaching out to over 6000 communities on all continents. Kosha holds degrees in Cultural Anthropology, Linguistics and Organisational Development and has studied with Thomas Hübl since 2005. She grew up in South Africa under Apartheid and has been dedicated to healing divides and collective trauma ever since. When she is not traveling, she enjoys living amidst nature's beauty in Findhorn, Scotland.  Promotional Message: If you're not a therapist or healer, but you've heard our guests describe the personal transformations they experienced during their Compassionate Inquiry® journeys, and wonder what that would be like for you... Circles is a 10-week small group experience offered to anyone who wants to experience the power of Gabor Maté’s approach to trauma healing. Use this link to find out if this program is for you. Resources: Website: The Pocket Project Website Related Links: 2025 Collective Trauma Summit Thomas Hübl’s Website Compassionate Inquiry Global Social Witnessing Videos:  Global Social Witnessing (2025) From Apartheid to Ecovillages (2015) Podcasts: What is Collective Trauma? (2025) Planet Critical (2024) Books: ECOVILLAGE: 1001 Ways to Heal the Planet In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts Attuned Healing Collective Trauma Training: CI Circles Global Social Witnessing 1  Global Social Witnessing 2 Research: WHO Report: From Loneliness to Social Connection Quotes: “One of the most underutilized resources we have on the planet today is the good intentions of citizens and our willingness to make a difference.” - Kosha Joubert “The opposite of addiction is not sobriety, but connection.” - Gabor Maté “Social connection is essential for the health, strength and resilience of individuals and societies.” - The WHO Commission on Social Connection  Social Media: LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kosha-joubert/  FB: https://www.facebook.com/thepocketproject IG: https://www.instagram.com/project.pocket/ YT: https://www.youtube.com/c/thepocketproject LI: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thepocketproject  
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  • 6 Ingredients of Lasting Love with Dr Sara Nasserzadeh
    Hosted by Rosemary Davies-Janes. Produced by J’aime Rothbard. This conversation delivers rich insights on the importance of clear communication and intentional maintenance in healthy love relationships. Dr Sara also explores the ways personal and inherited trauma can impact intimate relationships, from causing ongoing emotional issues to expanding individuals' resilience and abilities to maintain healthy relationships. In addition to sharing stories from her personal and professional life, Dr Sara explains: - How the six relational ingredients of her Emergent Love Model interact and evolve over time. - The specific conditions required for love to flourish, gleaned from studying 312 couples - The common issues that result when couples communicate without mutual understanding. - The different couple conflict dynamics that shape children's emotional health - Why love is a conscious choice, not something one "falls into" or "out of". Dr Sara offers tools and strategies couples can use proactively to strengthen their relationships and provides practical guidance on how to cultivate loving relationships through awareness, active engagement and understanding rather than passive acceptance. About Dr. Sara Nasserzadeh An award-winning social psychologist, global thought leader and relationship expert, Dr Sara’s work bridges personal intimacy, professional excellence and intercultural fluency. She has authored multiple books, book chapters and white papers, including her award-winning 2024 book, Love by Design: 6 Ingredients to Build a Lifetime of Love.  Having worked as a senior advisor to the United Nations (UN), its Population Fund (UNFPA), its Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization, (UNESCO), and Fortune 500 companies across 41 countries, Dr Sara’s mission is: To create world peace, one relationship at a time.   Dr Sara is also a highly regarded scholar who has served on the boards of The International Society for the Study of Women's Sexual Health (ISSWSH), the World Association for Sexual Health (WAS), the American Association of Sexuality Educators, Counselors and Therapists (AASECT), and the California Psychological Association’s Division VII.  Dr Sara created and hosted the BBC World Service’s, The Whispers, a first-of-its-kind program addressing issues related to sexuality and interpersonal relationships in the Middle East. In 2007, it earned the BBC’s Innovation of the Year Award and continues to reach millions of Farsi speaking communities around the world. Celebrated by peers and clients alike, Dr Sara received: The Clark Vincent Award from the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists (CAMFT) for advancing the field of marriage and family therapy, The American Association of Sexuality Educators, Counselors and Therapists’ (AASECT) Professional Excellence Award, Pfizer’s Innovation of the Year Award, and was a British Council UK Alumni Award for Social Impact finalist. Her work has been featured in global media including NPR, BBC, CNN, ABC, New York Times and USA Today.  Dr Sara lives in Los Angeles and travels extensively for speaking engagements, cultural explorations, media engagements and research. Promotional Message: If you’ve been listening to our podcast, you may have heard guests connect their birth experiences with enduring subconscious behavioural and emotional patterns. To help break this cycle, Compassionate Inquiry® offers The Portal, a 28-week trauma-informed training for perinatal health professionals; such as midwives, obstetricians, nurses and doulas, who want to empower their patients to trust their innate ability to birth, bond & nurture their child. Use this link to learn more.  Resources: Website:  Dr Sara's Professional Website Related Links: Articles: Dr Sara’s monthly newsletter on Substack  The Six Signs Your Relationship Is One That Will Last How to Make a Marriage Work (Even If It’s With a Gold Digger) Books: Love by Design: 6 Ingredients to Build a Lifetime of Love (2024) Sexuality Education Wheel of Context (2017) The Orgasm Answer Guide (2009) Videos: Is Love the Secret Ingredient at Work? Love by Design Q&A Balancing Multiple Roles and Maintaining the Desire Towards Our Partner  How Trauma Affects Your Lovelife TEDx UCIrvine: Why Our Names Are the Gateway to Intimacy Podcasts: A New Model for Love Love by Design: Why Couples Succeed Love by Design Sex in the Middle East Quotes: “Human beings are members of the whole in creation of one essence, and soul. If one member is afflicted with pain, other members uneasy will remain. If you have no sympathy for human pain, the name of human you cannot retain.” - Saadi Shirazi “...within this book, [Love By Design] one of the things that I wanted to achieve was to really capture that essence of thriving relationships, from bedroom to boardroom.”  - Dr Sara Nasserzadeh “True love gives your heart a break, not heartbreak.” - Dr Sara Nasserzadeh “Trauma is not what happens to you, but what happens inside you as a result of what happens to you.” - Gabor Maté Social Media: Instagram: @Dr.Saranasserzadeh Facebook: @Dr.SaraNasseZadeh LinkedIn:   @Dr.Sara Nasserzadeh
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The Gifts of Trauma is a weekly podcast that features personal stories of trauma healing and the gifts revealed on the path to authenticity. Join us to hear what it was like for our guests to live with the tension of trauma, and what happened when they turned inward with compassionate curiosity. These highly relatable stories illustrate how they transformed their trauma generated fear, anger, pain or shame triggers into understanding, acceptance and love.
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